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Essex Man Charged in Shooting of Off-Duty Police Officer

An 18-year-old man stands accused of attempted first degree murder, first degree assault, among other charges.

 

Police have charged an 18-year-old man in the shooting of an off-duty police officer in Overlea.

Essex resident Michael Jabateh, 18, was charged with attempted first degree murder after an incident in which police describe a man opening fire on a car driven by an off-duty police officer. The officer was trying to maneuver his personal car through a crowd of juveniles and young adults that blocked the roadway after leaving a party in 700 block of Dale Avenue.

Read more about the party that led to an officer being shot: Investigation Reveals Shot Officer's Weapon Fired

The officer was shot twice and had to be transported to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center.

"The off-duty officer turned onto the street in his personal vehicle, and beeped his horn in an attempt to get people in the street to move out of the way," according to a release from Baltimore County police. "The officer was forced to stop completely due to the large crowd in the street. Detectives learned that an unknown person yelled that the man in the car had a gun, and that Michael Jabateh then approached the car and fired shots through the officer’s vehicle door."

Police arrested Jabateh in the 100 block of Orville Road on Dec. 20. Jabateh was caught after a brief foot chase, but not before dropping the gun that was linked to the shooting.

Jabateh was charged with attempted first degree murder, first- and second-degree assault, in addition to five other related charges. He currently being held without bail at the Baltimore County Detention Center.

Original story: Gunman Emerges from Crowd, Shoots Off-Duty Officer


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Related Topics: Baltimore County crime, Michael Jabateh, Overlea Crime, and Parkville Crime

Ph Patchmaster 2

1:21 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

The questions are, Why does an 18 year old need a firearm, and How do we increase our Gun Control to ensure these things don't happen in the future? This type of violence is getting out of hand. Our streets are not safe, it might as well be the wild west out there! Sad!

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Rick Solimini

4:15 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

I couldn't agree with you more. ANother question is where did he get the firearm from? Guns are getting way out of control. Why aren't parents watching what their kids do? Kids today need agood swift kick.Forget child abuse.Look at the officer who could have been killed. This kid will be on the street due to a technicality. Why bother sending him through the courts and aid and bed him in jail? Everything is about violence.Kids to video games.When is enough,enough?

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PcTech

12:24 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Simple, he wants to kill people.

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Red Dolphin

6:39 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

do you think if we had outlawed guns say 12 years ago that this guy wouldnt have a gun that night?

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JBL

11:33 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Patchmaster, there were already at least 3 laws broken in this incident. Why do you think another law will stop another one in the future? Thugs don't care about laws.

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donald loetz

12:09 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

free young mike people dont know the real story they (mike)were outside in the street because people were trying to fight them and the offduty cop got out his car with the gun wavein it in the air not once statein he was a cop tellin them to get out the street mike thought it was just a readom guy with a gun so he feard for his life that way he started shootin he dident really mean to do it if the cop would of stated he was a cop just like everybody else he had the gun for protection.. stay good yo donald loetz

Steve

1:47 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

If we lived in a Stand Your Ground state no charges would have been filed. What was the cop's BAC anyway?

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Needaname

7:10 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Steve - I hope this is a crude attempt at humor.

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PcTech

12:29 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Yes they would. Stand Your Ground involves defense not offense. This thug was in the middle of the street, not on his property.

Since you brought this up, George Zimmerman was true and correct in every respect. The facts were published the day he killed Trayon Martin a 6' 4" linebacker on his football team. Zimmerman was 5'8".

Witnesses reported that Martin blindsided Zimmerman was sitting on his chest banging his head on the ground. Witnesses said Zimmerman was screaming for help before he LEGALLY defended himself.

I've seen these people blocking streets and looking for trouble. The officer would have been justified to kill him.

This is the fourth attack that I've heard of this year of police officers attacked by people in crowds.

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JBL

11:43 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Steve why do you assume the cop was drinking?

Steve

1:58 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

If you feel threatened you are allowed to pull your gun out and "Pow!, Pow! Pow!"

I imagine he felt threatened.

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Dan

3:20 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Steve,

By your really truly pathetic logic and conclusion jumping, this kid would probably already have been killed, since he was so at ease with pulling and firing an illegally possessed firearm.

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Buzz Beeler

10:48 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Steve, what is this kiddy land or Romper Room "Pow!, Pow! Pow!" You sound like you should be in diapers.

So based on you brain the guy in Florida was justified in the shooting. Stand your ground. The difference is the man in Florida was assaulted first.

How is this morning's Sun paper 75% of teens charged with adult crimes in the county are black. This is alarming considering the percentages of blacks to whites.

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PcTech

12:33 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

If you had ever actually fired a gun it's more like, "crack, crack, crack" and it's about 10 times louder than the loudest sound in a movie theater.

Police are generally instructed to shoot anyone who approaches their vehicles. Ever since a State Trooper was killed by a man wearing body armor this has "I believe" been the rule.

In one area there is a crack down on cars with tinted glass. I see cars violating Maryland law every week. The tint cannot be do dark as to hide the identity of the inhabitants in Maryland and this did result from an officer being shot.

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Matt

1:58 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

PcTech- being instructed to shoot anyone that approaches their car is pretty far from reality. Now, if it's determined that the person is a threat, then yeah, they'll probably get shot at. But just approaching the car? That's asking for an insta-Murder charge!

Steve

3:43 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Pathetic logic?? That is what the "Stand Your Ground" law is based on. 3:30 in the morning some half in the bag dude pulls out his gun and starts firing into a crowd you are supposed to fire back.

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ron

1:30 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

No, you run like hell dummy. Because now you have the "half in the bag" and you firing into a crowd.

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Buzz Beeler

10:49 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

The black teen fired first if you can read.

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PcTech

12:36 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

No, you are describing attempted murder. Stand Your Ground is to prevent the police from wasting time on self defense killings, like the George Zimmerman case.

Zimmerman should never have been arrested at all. If not for Fox News and their selective release of information (Known as LYING) he would never have been arrested. They kept showing pictures of Martin when he was 14. They never talked how he was a football player trained to violence.

kevin

3:56 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Look just stop the BS ! It is ILLEGAL in Maryland to purchase a handgun if your under 21 . It is Illegal to carry a concealed handgun without a ccp in Maryland . If by chance this QUILTY person (He is Quilty the handgun they got him with is illegal ) not to mention shooting, by chance he has a juvenile record and any of those offenses were considered felonies equivilant if he had been adult he is also unable to purchase a hand gun after he turns 21. I wish people would just admit it gun laws DO NOT WORK! We should just have open carry and see what happens to crime rate. oh yeah Steve enough with the Florida law Obama won now truth has begun to surface he was beat up and threatened ,victim does have prior run ins and the fact is they Will have those cell coversations with girlfriend who has recanted original statements and is seeking 5th .very Great possibility there is a text from victim saying I'm going to show him. Stand your ground has it's merits.

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Buck Harmon

8:29 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Most laws are created knowing that they will be violated...corrupt judges and lawyers bank on it....the courts are corporate, like the jails..

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PcTech

12:44 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

You are not correct. It is perfectly legal for people possessing Maryland Carry permits to carry concealed. It is not legal to carry openly in Maryland. And due to the 10s of thousands of permit requests illegally denied by the State Police, there was a "softening" of this illegality in that business principles are allowed to carry to an from work.

Otherwise carrying a firearm in Maryland is permitted only if the firearm is unloaded, and not readily able to be retrieved and loaded if in an automobile. Further, except for business principles going back and forth, a firearm cannot be taken off your own property unless you are going to a recognized range (and you must get a receipt on your return) or gun dealer.

When I responded to burglar alarm calls I was always armed. Typically it took me half an hour to get to my business, and then another half hour or more for the police to arrive. I don't remember a time that the police were there when I arrived.

One time on that same property the police responded to some of the tenants, and killed a man by gunfire who was beserk. The man actually tried to take the officers gun, and it went off as he was trying to kill the officer. The .38 Special 158 gr bullet (soft lead) bounded off his hip bone internally and pierced is heart.

People can inherit guns although many are stolen which are in the possession of young people.

Law enforcement is passive. It works if new criminals don't keep appearing, but they do.

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JBL

11:32 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

PC Tech.. No one under 21 can have a hand gun in Maryland. This thug was 18. Not to mention we are all 100% sure he had no CCP. Either way he was breaking the law.

kevin

3:59 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Hey goofball Stand Your Ground does not allow you to use illegal weapon to defend yourself.

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kevin

4:05 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

People like Steve are the Real reason we still have WESTBORO BAPTIST around. They take stands only to defend liberal point of view ,result ACLU stands behind Westboro and against Nativity scenes or 10 commandments in goverment buildings. Yes Steve ,Westboro was saved from bankruptcy because ruling against 10 commandments in public buildings showed goverment had no right to stop protests unless they were religious in nature permanent fixtures as in nativity scenes or menorahs in goverment buildings . Thanks steve your friends from Westboro appreciated your support so they could be there in Conn.

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FIFA_archived

4:27 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

small k kevin, the reason you have the WBC around is your SCOTUS ruled in their favor. It was not Steve, he didn't have a vote. Did you graduate from high school small k kevin, or were you just passed along.

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PcTech

12:50 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Actually I believe it allows you to use any means to defend yourself. The weapon is not really important, only that you should not be persecuted for defending your life an property.

We desperately need stand your ground here. The locals are afraid of a race war. That is why the media misbehave so badly. They are trying to make the rioters think they are winning.

Steve

4:16 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

What do you have against the Constitution,Dumbo?

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kevin

4:22 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Book it everyone at 4:16 pm Steve has now defended the Constitution as it is written. Also pledged his support for Westboro Baptist .Now we all Know who you really are Steve.

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FIFA_archived

10:03 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

What I like about the freedom of speech is it doesn't shoot high velocity military rounds designed to maim and kill anything it hits, including children like the second amendment appears to be doing. Sorry, Evets, we rigorously disagree on that one. I am willing to tolerate crap from the WBC, but not from murderers.

kevin

5:05 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Wow here comes the calvary FIFA to Steve rescue,let's throw out some namecalling, bullying,and other tactics to make people who disagree with the three Stooges of Patch go away .Right FIFA ?

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FIFA_archived

5:11 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Please learn how to spell small k kevin, it really makes you look stupid. Surprised? Nah.

Steve's partner pictured to his left

5:36 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Steve what do YOU have against the Constitution? You are in favor of the 1st but not the 2nd?

Stand your ground? It doesnt apply at ALL in a case like this. The 18 is prohibited federally and in EVERY state from POSSESSING a handgun outside of a controlled enviroment like a shooting range or shooting sport activity.

Just because you dont understand firearms and have some phobia about your neighbors being able to protect themselfs doesnt make guns "evil". Many here grew up around guns and own them...you know what...none of them ever jumped up, pointed themself at someone, and pulled their own trigger.

To further show how stupid the liberal agenda is they will jump on the back of school age children being killed however the support abortion to the fullest.....jeezzz guess it's okay to kill a child in a hospital enviroment but a school? No no cant have that.

Guns are bad....only the police and military need them. Not everyone lives in highly populated area's where the police response is 4-6 minutes for an emergency. Some still live away from trashy ghetto MTA folks and would like the chance to defend themself against both criminals and domestic enemies. There are plenty of places even in MD where the police are 15-20 minutes...heck in Baltimore County you can see that kind of response time to an emergency.

Cry foul at guns and not the real issue which is a turd kid at a party thinking he can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants.

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kevin

7:01 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Fagin Insulse Fimicolous Autocoprophagy or FIFA with a name like yours and what it really means do you think you worry educated people with your spelling comments ?
Why don't you stick to your fantasy about discussing Depends ? That is more up your alley isn't it ?

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Buck Harmon

8:35 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Appropriate...perhaps..at times..

Ed

8:30 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Such a wonderful, civil discussion on both sides. And they say civil discourse is dead...

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DB

9:13 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Now this guy looks like the son Obama would have had if he had a son.

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Needaname

7:33 am on Friday, December 28, 2012

Obama does have a son, according the Michelle his name is Bo.

FIFA_archived

10:34 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

I agree that the second amendment allows people to bear "arms", I just demand that the laws can restrict that 'right" to certain type of arms and ammunition. I, like Thomas Jefferson, believe that 200 year old documents require frequent re-examination every 25 years or so. The 2nd amendment has been sorely in need of that for a long time.

As Evets knows, I am passionate about that issue, I am a fan of Emilie. I will respectfully agree to disagree on his interpretation.

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Buck Harmon

8:36 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Demanding won't work either...

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PcTech

1:12 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

You, like so many people, are not realistic. I am. If I could remove all weapons from all people and make all people equal in their skill of personal unarmed combat I would do so in nano-second.

I have no intention of devoting hours a day to unarmed combat as many people do. This too should be banned. An expert karateka second dan could easily kill a person with 1 blow prior to that person reacting.

The same is true of an expert pistoleer. When I used to follow the teachings of Mas Oyama he was regarded as being able to do "the impossible" particularly with his spear hand technique.

Karateka were, in this country, killed on sight on the west coast at one time, as they were regarded as assassins. The Tong wars on the West Coast existed for some time.

Later I converted to Akido. The best 1st Dan Kareteka cannot defeat a .22 rimfire handgun.

The Colt .45 Peacemaker was just that. It allowed people of small stature to equal the ability of larger people to defend themselves.

It is NOT illegal to shoot someone who threatens your life. A man was just killed for pulling a knife on a Policeman, and Tazer did not stop him. The officer legally shot and killed him.

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PcTech

1:18 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Karate, by the way means, open hand. It was developed in Korea by monks who wanted to resist the brutal rule of Japanese Samurai soldiers who carried Katana and wore wooden armor. Legend has it that the monks started hitting tree trunks and eventually developed the ability to punch so hard as to be able to kill a Samurai in armor.

Some of the practices in Karate today illustrate this. I had a friend who could break bricks with a single blow. Mas Oyama could break many roof tiles in a single blow. He could also break a 1" pine board using the tips of his fingers.

Bruce Lee's 1" punch could floor people twice his size. His reaction times were the fasted tested at his college.

It is a fact that in offense a practiced artisan can throw and land a punch BEFORE the person he is striking can react. If the attacker is a skilled Karateka the person attacked will likely die.

Akido is a higher form of art. It seeks first of all to relive the threat of an attacker, and then to disable, not kill, the attacker.

kevin

10:48 pm on Saturday, December 22, 2012

Evets ,kevin pot meet kettle (good point) .Being upset doesn't give me right to make jerk out of myself.I can do that by myself by commenting anyway. still just feel that 20 kids are being used thought try WH.journalism get them off topic .gunlaws aren't changing,Florida, Tavon case is gone out of newscycle.Just like Tawana Brawley ,Sharpton and them all get free pass.But that is state of journalism and media. But again good point Evets.

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Parkvillehoney

12:33 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

I wonder what Michael Jabateh's excuse will be for having an illegal gun plus firing at an off duty police officer. He lives in a very affluent neighborhood of eastern Baltimore County. He can't plead he has a poor upbringing. Sad to see a young man commit an action that will forever change his life.

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Pat Foster

7:03 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

If you think that controlling guns, of any kind, will make you safer you are kidding yourself! When they take away all our guns, then they will come for us! Wake up dumbasses!!

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Buzz Beeler

11:07 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

In he county according to today's Sun, 76% of all teens that are charged with adult crimes are black, Just as most mass murders are committed by young maies.

Sometimes dealing in facts is not acceptable to others. They refuse to accept accountability.

Dennis Gilpin

8:03 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

This country is faced with the reality that guns will always be here. Years ago people would use their fists to settle their differences.This certainly wasn't the right thing to do but it happened. Now, much easier to pull out a gun and settle your differences.
Who really has to deal with the this "in the end" ? The families who have to take care of the victim (sometimes paralized for life ) The police who have to find the shooter. The court system who has to sentence the criminal. A vicious circle that really starts with the upbringing of the "shooter". A defense lawyer will go out of their way to justify the shooting ( poor upbringing, problems in the neighborhood,etc. ). There is no excuse for shooting another person. They do it because the gun is in their hand which ( in their mind ) represents power..

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Buck Harmon

8:46 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

We are currently dealing with the results of teachings...lessons, from the last 50~60 years. The world is a vampire..it'll chew you up and spit you out if you let it..
We should each defend ourselves and our beliefs, as they are personal choices from perceived free human beings...if you choose some sort of comfort from government control via law...cool... if you don't trust the government with your life, totally different story....to each their own..

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PcTech

1:36 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

You are correct about the reality of this nation pretty much always having guns, and other weapons. The ATF has been 99.999% successful in preventing the use of full automatic weapons ever since there was a public outcry in Chicago during Mob Wars that resulted in two or three innocents being killed.

As long as egoists exist there will be war, murder, theft, and all manner of wrongs committed. We cannot stop mass murders with Automobiles, guns, or hands.

Automobiles are also being used for mass murder. Deliberate automobile murder is on the rise.

There are more US soldiers killed in auto and motorcycle accidents that in combat.

What the difference between killing a crowd with a car, or a gun?

The difference is the emotional effort expended by News Media against a weapon of convenience that is designed to kill as opposed to a weapon of convenience that is just as common, but doesn't give a clear unambiguous target for hysteria.

Since Ralph Nader's book "Unsafe at any Speed" automobiles have been made progressively made safer to those you use them. In Europe they are being made safer for those hit by them, but NOT in the USA.

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FIFA_archived

8:37 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

The difference PcTech is it is being done with semi-automatic weapons, not cars. Why is that?

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Sanchez

11:50 am on Monday, December 24, 2012

Is Fifa also willing to discus how to stop 38% of all murders in America by less than 7.5% of the population? 50% of those murdered and murderers involved a handgun. Not all semi auto. Many use revolvers so no shell casings are left behind at the planned scene of the crime.

12664 murders 67.7% of those with firearms. 6220 murdered in 2011 by handguns, 72% of all firearm murders. 323 with rifles, 2.5%, 13% of all firearm murders. 26% with unknown firearm or other weapons. 1694 with knives and other cutting instruments, 13%. 728 by hands feet fists, 5.75%.

Are you willing to discuss ALL the firearm carnage in America or just a tiny tiny percentage of it? Are we limited to discussing the less than 1% of firearm murder where a made up label for a firearm is used that the FBI does not even catalog because the numbers are so low? Why would you dismiss 38% of all murders by firearm?

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FIFA_archived

12:02 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

Sanchez, I have said many times on the Patch I am for the 100% banning of all semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines. Possession of the weapons and magazines would be a felony with mandatory prison time. Use of the weapon in a crime carries a minimum time of 25 years.

What eliminate murder with guns. You must eliminate the murderers or the weapons. Murderers are born every day, take away the weapons and you will reduce murders.

That said, it is not going to happen. Thus we will have these murders of all kinds non-stop.

Now, Sanchez, what is your proposal to end the murders?

Buck Harmon

8:52 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Our Government has a track record of mass failure....it has also been involved in mass murder, both at home and abroad....kinda weird when you think about it...don't think I'll be surrendering anything to that type of structure...personal choices trump perceived law... that feels like freedom to me..

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Buzz Beeler

12:18 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Hey Steve I'm still waiting for your bated breath words on your FD story and the black teen fired first, if you can read.

Dennis Gilpin

11:38 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Evets, To Settle differences is one thing ( as in war ) but to use the streets to gain an advantage is another. We should be able to walk down the streets and not be attacked by an irresponsible person. The police would love to not be called on an armed robbery. Unfortunately, there are criminals "out there" who love to pull up on unarmed victims. Police presence is the best thing to have but they can't be everywhere. At this point recognizing a potential problem ( and countering it ) is the best thing we can do other than being armed. Sometimes giving up your possessions saves your life. Hate the thought of it but it's a reality.

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Steve

11:48 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012

BOBB

"....batted breath words...."

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Buzz Beeler

11:13 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Steve don't follow your buddy because he is wrong. Your comment is a fragment, not a sentence and like Frank where do you see the misspelled word "batted?"

You to are impatient and like a child can't hold it in until it counts.

Steve

12:25 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

"I'm still waiting for your bated breath words"

LOL Now he is deleting his posts and reediting them. What a Maroon!

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Buzz Beeler

1:10 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

You are also wrong. By the way since when do you capitalize the word "Maroon"? It is not capitalized but then again for you and your intelligence category which is : "Pow!, Pow!, Pow!", I would not expect anything less.

You should learn what the word - edit - means then you won't look so stupid criticizing those that use it instead of making the same mistakes that you do over and over.

Now if you edit your mistake that makes you a maroon also now doesn't it?

You guys aren't and not capable of dueling with me. You don't have the brains to do so.

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Steve

1:27 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Maroon is a noun.

You really should ask the Catholic Church to give you some back some of the money your parents wasted on your tuition.

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Buzz Beeler

1:54 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Steve like I said you don't have the brains to compete, even with the help of your buddy Frank.

I'm assuming your are referring to the URBAN use of the word. Here is the definition.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maroon

Now here is the definition of a noun.

http://www.writingcentre.uottawa.ca/hypergrammar/nouns.html

YOU CAPITALIZE PROPER NOUNS. That is where you just don't get it. They teach that in grade school English both Catholic and public schools. This is the definition of a proper noun, showing examples of a proper noun.

http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-proper.htm

There is a HUGE difference between the two when you write them. Now hurry up or you will miss your buss and pull your pants up.

Now mark my words, you won't hear from him for awhile.

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Steve

1:58 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

"Now hurry up or you will miss your buss.."

I wouldn't want to miss that now would I?. Plus she's really cute!

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Buzz Beeler

10:25 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

What would I get if I sued Steve? Nothing, he does not have anything. Like the other two of you there is not a nickel among the pack of you. Why waste my money?

Hey Steve what is a "?." Are you and 1ke drinking or impaired?

1ke

2:03 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

I don't mean to sound like a Macaroon, but are you sure you didn't mean "with bait on my breath?"f

Just asking.

You might look at http://bit.ly/RddMNv But, no. Absolutely no. Everybody else is stupid and you are smart.

Maroon. Puce. Organdy.

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Buzz Beeler

10:20 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Your sentence structure is a bit impaired. I did not mean "with bait on my breath?f"

The rest of your sentences are called fragments. No not everybody is stupid, just the three of you; Steve, you and Frank.

1ke

7:09 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

News accounts did not mention whether the officer discharged his weapon. That four shots may have been fired was mentioned at some point.

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Buzz Beeler

11:04 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

Steve this is a test. Put your lips up or shut up. Where is your information about your statement that the FD has a class full of vets already hired?

Those lips will remain silent like always. You still can't spell. You will make Frank look bad, him being the authority on everything especially grammar. You wouldn't want to give him a bad name now would you?

Buzz Beeler

10:04 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

The officer fired his weapon after he was fired upon.

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Steve

10:34 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

The other way around Beeker. Thank God they only gave you one bullet and you had to keep it in your pocket, otherwise you might have put your eye out.

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Buzz Beeler

10:52 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

I saved he cap of the bullet for your one tooth. The direction and angle of your bill and cap are your decision.

Just be careful when you run for the bus with your pants down around your knees you don't fall and hurt yourself, the ER's are full.

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Steve

11:25 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012

2013 is going to be a big year for you Beeker. Your age will actually match your IQ.

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Buzz Beeler

8:59 am on Monday, December 24, 2012

Evets, I agree but look at who your dealing with. Some of these people don't know the meaning of respect and comprehend the word civil discourse. In my case I gave up long ago being PC after I was targeted with slander and harassment.

If you want respect they have to earn it. I never, every refer to name calling unless I am the target of their attacks.

I am not a punching bag. The issues on this and any similar sites are the same and many times they are not mature and adult responses but rather attacks that deal with ethnic issues.

Unfortunately humane interaction and the level of maturity involved dictate the tone on the topic and their responses.

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Chillin

9:51 am on Monday, December 24, 2012

Just find some new kids to play with in the new year.

Buzz Beeler

10:14 am on Monday, December 24, 2012

Chillin, every blog I write, no matter what the topic or every time I make a comment the three of them pounce and and for almost two years I've been called every name in the book. I do a blog on you woman being sexually harassed in the county and they find or blame me for her situation.

I've tired to reason, cajole but nothing worked. They won't stop even if I don't comeback with a comment. You can't reason with people like that. I can't just stand by and have someone accuse me of a crime and remain silent.

There are many important issues facing this country and community but they can't grasp that. I'm a real person and represent everything they can't stand. That's the bottom line.

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Buzz Beeler

12:02 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

An interesting study using government data involving the types of firearms used in homicides. The information is surprising. You read you decide.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf

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FIFA_archived

12:17 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

The problem with the AWB was that it didn't do anything but stop the manufacture of the weapons. The existing stockpile would last a very long time. As the article indicates that the manufacturers just came up with alternatives that met the requirements so not to be banned.

Buzz Beeler

3:26 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

FIFA, I don't think it will ever happen. I used to believe in strict gun control but we will never get the guns off the street. We are way past that stage.

Medical science can now identify those who have a propensity for violence and that there are those who have no emotions when it comes to committing such crimes.

It is an unobtainable situation. Too many people and too many guns.

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FIFA_archived

3:33 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

More are born every day. They will keep coming. Other "rights" in the constitution will protect them as well. This is just a body count Buzz. When and where are the only questions yet to be answered. We will continue to kill because it is in our economic interest. Say it ain't so.

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FIFA_archived

3:44 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

I don't believe the word "right" is as interpreted by the SCOTUS when it comes to the 2nd amendment. The 5-4 decision was an interpretation. As has been almost every decision by the SCOTUS when we get a 5-4 vote. The interpretation by the SCOTUS has now become a subject for review every time the SCOTUS is rebalanced. Thus, the "right" is only as good as a conservative/liberal majority exists either way. Thus there is no "right". Precedents no longer are of any concern. A "rebalanced" majority for example could render abortion from legal to illegal. So was it a right or not?

Buzz Beeler

6:24 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

FIFA, the human race has been killing each other since well before biblical times. I don't see any evidence of a more kindly human kind. We have to look only to the country of Syria and their civil war.

The Constitution like the Bible is flawed.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

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FIFA_archived

7:22 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

We have become the most productive and efficient killers of not only our own citizens but those citizens of other nations as well. I am not a "believer' as many others. But I see us as killers of the best of all, no judgment as to righteousness. But we do kill extremely well.

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1ke

8:11 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

You too, Buzz. Have a Merry Christmas.

Buzz Beeler

10:08 pm on Monday, December 24, 2012

1ike thank you, and have a great Christmas also.

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Buzz Beeler

11:23 am on Tuesday, December 25, 2012

This ex con killed his grandmother. He received a life sentence and was paroled.

He was a w/m which fits the profile. The criminal justice system failed. Why would you release a man who beat to death his grandmother with a hammer. If life doesn't mean life than execution is the next best thing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/shooter-opens-fire-webster-n-y-house-fire-article-1.1226541

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FIFA_archived

11:37 am on Tuesday, December 25, 2012

Buzz, I don't see where he got a life sentence. According to the article:

"Pickering said police had not had any encounters with the madman since his release in 1998 after he served a sentence for manslaughter. His parole ended uneventfully in 2006." As I understand, the parole lasts until the end of the original sentence? It appears he got 26 years for the manslaughter conviction.

One may argue that he should have been sentenced to life, but that is a different discussion.

Buzz Beeler

1:18 pm on Tuesday, December 25, 2012

My mistake on the sentence issue, however it sounded like a plea deal. You don't beat to death as 92 year old with a harmer and call it manslaughter. All things being equal he, if given the right sentence instead of some deal, he should have been in prison or received a needle.

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taylorrae

7:28 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

to the people that said in previous comments that mike is a thug and he just wants to kill people you have no idea who he is or what your talking about , I do know mike and he was a nice kid he made a mistake everybody makes mistakes and I hope he don't get caught up on all of them charges he was a good that went to school that just likes to hang around the neighborhood it's sad he should have to throw his whole life away because of a mistake

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FIFA_archived

7:46 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Welcome to the Patch. We look forward to your second post.

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1ke

8:48 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

taylorrae, do you think that mike is trying to impress people or be cool?

I mean, guns and bullets are dangerous.

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Parkvillehoney

10:44 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

I have to agree 100% with Evets. No one, in their right mind, would pull out a gun and shot just because someone asks you to move out of their way. Something else is going on in this young man's head. Did he think he is a 'gangsta?" He needs to suffer some consequences for his actions. I hope he doesn't walk on this one.

Steve

8:26 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

A man gets out of his car at 3:30 AM and pulls a gun. If you had a gun what would you do EVETS, pull it or run away?

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Buzz Beeler

10:50 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

The officer did not pull his gun out until after he had been fired upon. He had no choice but to return fire at the suspect who was apparently close enough to the officer's vehicle there was no other option. He shot only after being fired at. Police officers are taught only to take out the firearm if they intend to use fatal force and only if their lives are in danger or those of someone else.

Just because someone yelled "gun", if in fact that was the case does not mean one starts shooting. Kids and guns don't mix. The suspect approached the officer's car at close range and began firing. That is why he is where he is.

1ke, Evets, and FIFA all make good solid points.

Just like that shooter in upstate NY, he should have never been on the street. Another waiting time bomb.

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Dennis Gilpin

10:59 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Buzz, Maybe ( at one time ) he was a nice kid. All that changed when he decided to carry a weapon and shoot another individual. If it wasn't a police officer that he opened fire on how would an unarmed individual fight back ? All shooters should be sentenced to hard labor with no parole.They think they are special than they deserve "special" treatment. Tent city in Arizona ?

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Steve

11:00 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

No, I wasn't but neither were you guys.

Beeker pretends he knows, but as usual he is very short of facts.

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Buzz Beeler

11:09 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Evets, don't bother he won't reply. This followup article says the suspect approached the officers car and began shooting. The officer was hit and fired in self defense.

I know what the academy teaches in the use of deadly force. The policy changed when I was still on the streets.

The original policy allowed you to shot a fleeing felon. It was changed to using deadly force to protect your life or that of another.

Steve has no respect that's why he can't spell. It is what it is.

http://parkville.patch.com/articles/investigation-reveals-shot-officers-weapon-fired

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Steve

11:15 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

"Kids and guns don't mix."

Neither do Bitter Old White Guys with anger management issues.

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Buzz Beeler

11:32 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Why do you insist on capitalizing everything? You still don't get it.

Evets, if the officer used his weapon to clear the street he would have been charged with a crime. I explained to you when he police are allowed to use their weapons and this case was not one of them until he was shot at.

Do you think they would have arrested this kid for no reason and charged him with the crimes they did if they did not investigate the entire incident. He isn't in jail for his health.

Steve, at least this bitter old white guy is legal. I don't get angry, the facts speak for themselves.

Now why don't you go out Towson and tell them Steve said they got it all wrong and on your investigation you demand you buddy's release and when your done that come back and tell us all about it.

Buzz Beeler

11:19 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Evets, read some of my blogs on Dundak/Patch and the Sun Talk Board, and look at my background in reporting. I never write something unless I used published reports and documents. I always do my research. I've been doing this for longer than you are probably are old. I had 39 years with the county police force.

My writing and reporting background goes back to the early 80's and includes work with the Sun and the Hearst Corporation's Baltimore News American.

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Steve

11:23 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

39 years without a promotion.

How was Tamika's Christmas? What did you buy her Beeker?

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Dennis Gilpin

11:34 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Evets, Why was that kid carrying a weapon in the first place.? After that the kids life has changed drastically. He could have been killed and he could have killed somebody. I know a friend of mine who came up to a group of guys blocking the street . He "respectfully" asked them to move, They put a gun in his face and made him wait. I guess we should accept this. ? These type of people expect us to.

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Buzz Beeler

11:51 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Dennis, not sure about Evets, but people like Steve have issues.

Dennis, with people like Steve your wasting your breath. He has a great deal of issues to deal with. He uses several AKA's and will never answer a question? He has had numerous comments deleted for violation of the terms of use.

What you see is what you get.

Tamika is doing just fine. The man who asked sexual favors of her and and taped another girl isn't doing so good. He was fired and charged with a crime.

Of course I figured you would side with the offender rather than the victim.

Steve has a problem with me because I did something with my life. When I did a blog on a Maj. from Dundalk killed in the war he used a AKA to put the article that paid tribute to the deceased solider down. Like I said he has issues. Evets if you are who you claim to be if you can't see what this is then Mr. Gilpin and I can't help you.

Like I said the suspect is in jail charged with attempted first degree murder.

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Steve

12:10 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

"Tamika is doing just fine."

What did you buy her for Christmas, Beeker? You played a big part in getting her fired. Flinging Monkey Poo has a consequence.

Do you want me to bring up the post where they bragged about spitting lugey's in their Supervisor's coffee cup?

Nice people you pal around with....

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Buzz Beeler

12:35 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

I don't care what post you bring up. First of all, as always you are wrong. Your are always wrong. She was not fired. She was on medical leave the same as the other victim.

The one who got fired was the one charged with as crime, her boss. As always you in way over your head.

I have nothing to do whit personal issues within the office or what he said or she said issues.

The blog focused on the filing of the EEOC complaint with was formal and the man was charged with a crime on the other matter.

You make a fool of yourself when you don't know what you're talking about.

The second blog referred to her being transferred only.

I only deal with facts and those facts dealt with what the blogs stated not what someone wrote in a comment.

You always get in way over your head and put your foot in your mouth. Tomkia came to me with her story and I wrote based on the facts that were provided including the charging documents

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Steve

12:51 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

You can take the Alcohol out of Fruitcake but it's still a Fruitcake.

Way to go Buzz! You make Dundalk Proud!

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Steve

12:56 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

" I don't care what post you bring up. First of all, as always you are wrong. Your are always wrong. She was not fired."

Do you even remember your own Blogs??

http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/victim-of-sexual-harassment-case-in-county-fired-over-the-phone

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Buzz Beeler

8:32 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

You were correct. That was the finial blog that I wrote. I talked to Tomika numerous times during the day and night over this entire issue. It was her wishes to come forward with her story and put a stop to this man which she did. She was on medical leave for a while before they fired her.

That VA hospital you rave about almost let my brother bleed to death over the holidays and yes I did forget about the third blog on her story.

I will tell you I would not want to be in the county's shoes legally after taking that action.

She told me that there was no way she could go back to that environment and work. That is why the law refers to it as a hostile work environment.

Yes I forgot about that part of the story and admit it because I am truthful. I stand up and come forward with my mistakes, while you on the other hand continue to hide like some scared child in the shadows.

Don't you remember your statement on the FD hiring a full class of vets in the county concerning my blog. Where is your information on that or don't you remember.

Before you criticize others look at your own image in the mirror. The Other Tim was right about your false and misleading statements on this shooting or don't you read the other news on the shooting as I posted above.

The pot calling the kettle black.

Tomika did what she had to do.

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Tink1967

1:35 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

I wish you all would shut up and look at the guy! He looks like an animal. Our neighborhoods used to be nice! Thanks to "them" it's not safe anywhere!

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1ke

1:49 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Post your picture so that I have something to compare it to. The fellow looks like just folks to me. He is likely not too pleased to be having a mug shot taken.

Buzz Beeler

2:03 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Tink1967, it is easy for you to say things because you do not use a real name. Would you say what you said using your real name. Would Steve say the same things using his real name - I don't think so.

If we all shut up who are you going to comment to. Most people realize what took place and if they are wrong the investigation will reveal that.

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M.E

2:33 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Now that I have wasted 5-10 minutes of my life reading through the comments on here. I would like to say a few things:
Thank you to Sanchez and TaylorRae for your input (especially Sanchez).
To Tink1967 and Steve, you might want to consider some psychiatric help for your anger and bigotry issues.
Plus Steve, you might want to consider taking some remedial English courses. I am not insulting your intelligence but the concept of if you don't use it you lose it is true. Obviously you have not worked on parts of speech in quite awhile

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Buzz Beeler

2:44 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Now there's someone who knows of which they speak.

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1ke

5:51 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Score for M.E.

One sentence fragment
Four comma errors
Two stylistic problems: 1. the use of "plus", a mathematical term, instead of a more appropriate transition and 2. the use of "a while" is preferred when the term is used with a preposition

However, I do not regard these as a major problem in informal writing.

Steve

2:44 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

My name is Steve, Beeker.

Nice post Joe.

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Buzz Beeler

4:48 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Your name is Robert Armstrong, AKA Adam Baum, AkA, Steve. Mr. M.E must know you reputation which is rather lacking. You still can't spell.

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1ke

5:34 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

No, Buzz, I am Adam Baum. Remember from back in the day, before you were open-minded and nurturing?

Steve

4:55 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

LOL You're one to talk about spelling. You're illiterate.

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Steve

4:58 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

.....I am just glad someone showed you how to use Spell Check. Trying to read Buzzbonics was painful.

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Buzz Beeler

5:05 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

My name was not mentioned as the illiterate one, just yours. Why all the dots before the start of your sentence?

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Buzz Beeler

5:29 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Steve is a her, or did you hit the reply button by mistake? Were you referring to my name which is not spelled "Buzzbonics".

You are correct he or she still can't get it right. It's spelled Buzz!

Buzz Beeler

10:05 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

1ke, I'm always open minded. I wished you a Merry Christmas after FIFA, remember. I do acknowledge you were the first to do so. Ditto on the grammar but I would suggest a Exclamatory Sentence. That leaves 23 grammatical dissertations left.

Frank you were referring to the correct spelling of a name remember?

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Buzz Beeler

10:16 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

M.E I saw your comments in my inbox. Don't worry, you did not use a name. You are safe. 1ke was referring to me on the grammar issue. We do this all the time. You are not in the middle of anything. We all act like children. I do it because I'm 65 with no family and still like to write.

I don't always bash the government like this story I just did.

http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/this-christmas-its-yes-sir-and-semper-fi-a1afe6c1

I always wanted to interview a teacher for a blog. They talk but don't want it on record even though I don't use names.

Things like we do go on all the time. It's a whole new world of instant communication.

Your are not in the middle of anything. You are using a pseudonym. Don't worry about it. You should continue to talk about you being a teacher and you can do so without any worries. Your perspective would be interesting.

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Renee Girl

10:07 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Sad story. What happened to the off duty officer? Okay?

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