Alleged Perry Hall Shooter Identified, Charged With Attempted Murder
Robert Gladden Jr. was charged Tuesday with attempted murder and assault.
UPDATED (11:11 a.m.)—The 15-year-old accused in Monday's shooting at Perry Hall High School has been charged as an adult with attempted first-degree murder.
Robert Wayne Gladden Jr., 15, of the 8500 block of Bradshaw Road in Kingsville, was also charged with first-degree assault, according to online court records.
A preliminary hearing is scheduled for 8:30 a.m. on Sept. 7. Gladden is being held without bail at the Baltimore County Detention Center.
Police said yesterday that a student entered Perry Hall's cafeteria shortly before 11 a.m. Monday—the first day of school—with a shotgun and fired one shot that struck 17-year-old Daniel Borowy, a student at the school.
Gladden fired a second shot into the ceiling of the cafeteria as school staffers subdued him, according to court records.
Baltimore County police Chief James Johnson is set to address the media and discuss the case later Tuesday morning.
Stay with Patch for more on this breaking story.
Patch Associate Regional Editor Bryan P. Sears contributed to this article.
Dottie Cordwell
8:14 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
This just proves an unfortunate event like this can happen anywhere. Perry Hall High is still a great school. Thank God for the counselor who took down the shooter. He could have saved many more lives.
sherry schnepfe
9:30 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
when I signed in for golf last night, the young girl behind the counter said she knew the shooter and that he had been a target of bullying for quite a while. she looked ready to cry saying it should not have happened. we don't know all the facts..lets not judge so quickly.
Jackie
8:21 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Those students who knew what was about to happen and said nothing could have prevented the destruction of two lives yesterday, but they failed to act.
Harry Callahan
8:23 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Attempted first-degree murder? If this charge is to stand then the state's attorney's office will need a number of items of proof such as did the defendant have the intention to kill the individual who was shot? If, instead, this was a troubled individual (as it sounds from what I have read and heard in various news outlets) who was upset about the fact that his peers at school did not like him and he was looking to make an overall statement about how the feeling was mutual to everyone else in general and no one in particular, then look for this charge to be reduced drastically to something much further down on the criminal scale such as reckless endangerment, attempted manslaughter, etc.
There are too many elements of proof necessary to prove even attempted first degree murder and the state's attorney knows this. Overcharging in a situation like this only serves to make the public believe that the authorities are going to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. And making that statement, "we will prosecute this individual as an adult to the fullest extent possible of the law" should be sufficient.
Murph
8:36 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Yes, it was attempted 1st degree murder because he prepared himself by bringing the shotgun to the school, assembling it, and used it. Therefore, it was premeditated.
Michael
1:18 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
You don't need to prove anything except pre-meditation to make it 1st degree. He showed forethought by bringing the gun to school with 20 rounds of ammunition. He took the time to assemble to gun. Sorry, but this is clearly the correct charge.
faye
8:33 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
i agree with miss cordwell but my main concern with this is with all the technology in this county why didn't this school have metal dectors i understood that trouble in this school is very low but with all the crazy stuff out here in the world this can happen anywhere and now i hope the school and county board of education will agree that the kids need to be protected better in the future so that this kind of thing does not happen again there could of been many many more kids hurt if it wasn't for the actions of school staff and i am so thankful that they were there also i am praying for the student that did get hurt and that he makes a complete and speedy recovery
Jon
8:50 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree! But I don't think we should just stop at the schools. What about the movie theaters? There was the shooting in Colorado there that justifies this. Also, you should be scanned before going to the mall as well, because of all the people there. Really, it should be everywhere so you can feel safe going outside!
/sarcasm of course. Also, use a period every now and again!
While tragic events happen from time to time, treating the general public like everyone is a potential criminal is a far more insidious problem that may have short-term benefits. But I feel that it will have a long-term negative effect on our American society..
Carrie Snead Ayd
9:18 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Why should there have to be metal detectors in schools ?? I agree that this could have prevented him from getting a gun in there in the 1st place but it's a terrible world we live in when we have to make our children go through a metal detector in order to get an education.
p52
11:08 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
That's a horrible idea. We should not be making our children walk through metal detectors just to go to school. Unfortunately this even occurred and while it was terrible, a staff member at the school prevented it from becoming horrifically worse.
I understand that you want your child to be safe in school but not at the cost of making school feel like prison. This was one troubled person who, from what I understand, has always had numerous problems at school going back to his middle school years.
He was trouble but with the way the system works right now, troubled kids become the shcools problem. It's a revolving door. Kid gets expelled and he's right back the next year doing the same crap he did in the past.
john
12:33 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
metal detectors
Meredith
8:33 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
As much as I wish the two boys who saw him in bathroom had acted differently, we need to remember that they are 15 year old kids as well. They panicked and were scared to act for fear that the shooter would target them. It's so sad and scary and though we as adults would have acted differently, these are still children we are talking about.
Needaname
2:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
That is a good point. Common sense they should have told someone, but depending on teenagers to 'rat' on another kid is hard. There are so many 'victims' in this situation.
Lauren E
8:37 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
he shot someone .. when someone shoots a gun don't they automatically shoot to kill ? c'mon he didn't care if he took a life or not , he would have used a squirt gun if that was the case... Not a sawed off shot gun .
Jeff
8:39 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I love how people on here seem to know all the details, what other children knew and what his intent was. Amazing how intuitive you all are.
Don't worry about waiting till the actual facts come out, just keep reading social websites and voicing your opinion as fact. That is responsible.
Jackie
8:47 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Some facts are in.
Carrie Snead Ayd
8:39 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
There are many things and/or people that possibly could have "prevented" this from happening but it happened. I hear people blaming other students, blaming the shooters parents, blaming the fact that it happened on bullying etc etc etc. Bottom line is, no one but the shooter picked up a gun and walked into a school cafeteria filled with hundreds of students. What happened, child or not, to being responsible for YOUR OWN actions ? As a society, I feel like we always try to find an excuse or a reason for our behavior rather than own up to it. I do not condone bullying in any fashion, but what happened to the days of old when boys would be boys and just throw fists in the field and may the best man win ? May all of these families, especially that of the young man shot, find peace and may we as a community get the healing we need and become more compassionate to one another.
Murph
8:41 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I did some research, the 15 year old came from a dysfunctional family where both parents had issues with the law, especially his father. It does not condone or excuse Gladden's crime; but the dysfunctional home life did not help the boy. I am praying very hard for the 17 year old's recovery from his wounds.
Susan Goodman
8:48 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The sign on the shooter's home( mother's house) that said " we don't call 911" alongside a relief of a gun speaks loud and clear. The son absorbed the message and acted to solve his problems with violence. What a terrible attitude to bequeath to your child.
Spring Heeled Jack
9:50 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
If this is true the parents should be held equally responsible. Sounds like those "end of the world, hate everyone types"
Lindsay
8:50 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
First of all - THROW THE BOOK AT HIM!!! Second of all - How did this kid get this far into the school with a SHOTGUN?!! Furthermore, you do NOT shoot to harm with a SHOTGUN...you shoot to KILL. If he just wanted to hurt him or piss him off he could have used his fists, a BB gun, a blowdart...not a shotgun. Or did he not REALIZE that a shotgun blast at that range WILL KILL. Absolutely he should be charged with attempted murder!!
Jackie
8:52 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I remember when my son was in elementary school, there was a bully in the school who also lived in our neighborhood. The school and the parents knew he was a problem kid, yet we all lived in fear of what he might do, who he might target. This was a 9 year old child! Thankfully, the family moved. I don't recall the school taking any measures to, well, what could they do this being a public school and all? Parents of bullies don't necessarily see their children the same way the victims do. And if the ones being bullied aren't being helped, well, incidents like the one yesterday can result. Administrators need to take bullying seriously and not just issue a memo or put a line in the school policy manual on the penalties. Address the problem. Prevention sure costs less than repair.
Murph
9:00 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Some parents refuse to believe their kid(s) do wrong.
Jenny Bahr
9:12 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Who doesn't come from a dysfunctional family? Who hasn't at some point been picked on in school? At age 15,he alone is responsible for his actions.i know for a fact from someone who knew and spent time with him,he said he hated retards.doesn't feel random to me his 1st shot was at the special needs table.why shoot the most innocent? He wasnt bullied by daniel.my empathy is with daniel and his parents and the absolute NIGHTMARE they are going through.as for bobby...the fb post ,and 20 rounds of ammunition prove to me his intention to kill
Murph
9:18 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Ms. Bahr,
The kid made a choice and he'll have to pay the price regardless. Bad kids come from both dysfunctional and functional families. I have seen both in my lifetime. However in this case, the 15 year old's parents are not contributing to the growth and nurture of their son.
Spring Heeled Jack
9:58 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I heard from a few students yesterday that the shooter was never bullied! He chose to be a freak and hate people. When students would be nice to him, he would ignore them or say sick things to scare them. The shooter is 100% to blame and his wacko family too. I wouldn't be shocked at all if it comes out that the family had some "white supremest" tendencies or morals.
Jackie
10:32 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@Happy Wayne: it sounds like a missed opportunity for an intervention. I continue to believe that children do not come into the world hating. It is taught, nurtured, encouraged. Everyone, think about this the next time you go with the eye for an eye. You will just end up with everybody blinded.
Josephine Hlatki
9:13 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
So much talk about punishment, where guilt should go, etc. Let's pray for the boy who was shot and his grieving family. That's where we should be focusing our energies. The facts will come out and the trial will happen later. My sons were raised in the Perry Hall School district and I know it's basically a very nice area to grow up in. Bad things happen all over the world. Prayers need to go up for this boy who did the shooting, too. Sounds like he really needs God's intervention in his life.
Jackie
9:16 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Let us all be reminded that both families need our prayers.
Murph
9:32 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Amen Jackie!
Spring Heeled Jack
10:00 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I feel no remorse or sadness for the shooter or his family. Screw um!
Sam Wahbe
9:38 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
What about the victim? He looked as if he was a special needs student. Is this true? Our daughters were at VT when the shooting happened their freshman year. This tragedy and violence can be really devastating and traumatic for kids and families especially. This is a time when friends and family and a higher power are integral for healing. Thank goodness for the heroism this could of been a lot uglier.
Sick of all this gun violence
6:52 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Yes, it's true. He is a kid with Downs and was being bullied by Master Gladden. When the 17 year old stood up for himself that morning, that's what incensed Gladden to go out to the car and get the gun. He came prepared, he is a bully, he's from a family that disrespects authority and have raised a pup. And a pup comes from a parent who has to be also held accountable. As a teacher, I was continually appalled at how it is EVERYONE else's fault with the actions of the child except the parent's. In this case, he learned this behavior fro elders and was reinforced with it, taught to answer in this way when he doesn't get his own. And these are facts that can be extrapolated from his behavior, nothing else.
Annonomous
9:48 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
To Harry, it was pre-meditated, as Jenny said, the Facebook post and the amount of ammo say enough. Tht morning his Facebook stated he worked at 'Murder suicide' with the Manson Family. And his status yesterday morning said 'first day of school, last day of my life'. That with 20 rounds of ammo is enough for me to assume he planned to take out a few kids and to take him self after. Thank goodness that it didn't end up like that.
Ashley
10:10 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Under "Inspirational People" he has the Columbine shooters.
Personally, that sickens me more than anything else on his facebook.
Jenny Bahr
9:56 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Murph,
I do not disagree with you...if the parents looked at his fb page and stuck their heads in the sand...they have to live with that.i raised 2 boys who went to that school and s special needs child who graduated from ridge ruxton...have a 9 yr old in kingsville now...i can tell you...before this shooting,we decided he would never step foot in that middle or high school.thank God,my special needs son wasn't forced into the inclusion everyone thought was so great..the
overcrowding and cliques in those two schools makes it impossible for teachers to give students the attention they all deserve and the staff at both schools are amazing...they are just overwhelmed.2300 students at that high school..how can any teacher spot a problem? Just saying...build another high school and middle school and stop building high end homes to attract more families with kids we don't have room for in the school
Murph
10:12 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I understand your point of view Jenny. Your comment, ".....if the parents looked at his fb page and stuck their heads in the sand...they have to live with that." is right on the mark. I do not blame you one bit about your decision of not enrolling your special needs child into those schools. I attended Balto City Schools in the 60's and 70's and in late elementary and middle school, I was bullied relentlessly and developed anger issues. I kept a lot of my feelings from my parents and dealt with them internally. Even as a kid, I turned to God although we were church going people, but I deepened my relationship with God on my own to deal with my anger. I turned out fine, I have an excellent 28 year career in fedgov, married with one son who is a police officer. Now I am working on my second career to become a minister. I wish your special needs son well and I will pray for his success and for you being the good mom you are. God Bless!
Jenny Bahr
10:00 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Im actually horrified that a boy who stated i hate retards,then proceeded to shoot at the special needs table is being brushed off as a random act based on the fact he was bullied...and what he missed the bully?
Doug K
1:24 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree Jenny Bahr -- this is perhaps the greatest tragedy of the whole thing -- he shot at the most vulnerable kids in the school -- this was not "getting back at a bully". This was trying to kill the most vulnerable kids in the school.
Jeremiah
10:12 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Let's dispell some of the idiocy surrounding some comments:
-There is a way to prevent attacks.
*No, you can reduce liklihood, you cannot prevent. Banning one item doesn't stop someone from using another item. Metal detectors everywhere only inconvenience the whole, while those intent on killing simply shoot the guard (see recent shooting in DC).
-People/society failed the shooter.
*We know a very limited set of "facts" about the shooter, mostly third and fourth degree anecdotal evidence from teenagers (not quite the standard bearers of reliable information) and from facebook (also not a barometer of anything). It's probably fair to assume no one here is a trained mental health professional, so diagnosing the shooter is also probably an exercise in futility. Let the judicial and medical systems run their courses.
-People should have acted out.
*For starters, everyone thinks they would be a hero in a crappy situation and without significant training, most aren't. Sure, we have heroes like those on Flight 93 at Shanksville, but what did most of the passengers do? It's not in human nature to throw your life on the line. Some scientists even believe we have a human preservation gene. Quit judging those who didn't act. Contrary to your beliefs, you mostly likely would no different.
-Your parenthood skills are not determined by the ability to avert tragedy.
*We don't know the circumstances. Back to the central point: quit Monday-morning quarterbacking.
Jennifer Tanko
10:56 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Thank you!
Jill Angel
6:59 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I couldn't have said what I feel any better!
DS
10:18 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I def. think the word on bullying is out there now more than ever - more than when I was in school. I just think we have a long way to go. I think it is important not to bully for sure - but more importantly for anyone who takes a stand and defends someone who is getting bullied - they need to be protected - meaning they should not be "ousted" when they take a stand - I think that is the number one reason why some kds don't jump in an help. The ones not getting bullied are just as afraid.
Murph
10:21 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
DS,
I agree, I think the bullying has gotten worse. Sometimes I think the bullies are trying to test the anti-bullying programs to see how far they can go. If they get caught, they say "sorry" and go back to their bullying.
Jackie
10:29 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@Murph, maybe it's because the school administration takes no effort to fix the problem. They just tell you what the penalty will be, try to keep from being sued, and everybody is then on edge and looking over their shoulder trying not to be the next victim. If the shooter had mental health issues, were they dealt with or ignored? There seems to be a lot of money for non-essential services, and little for mental health. There will be lot of blame-shifting in the aftermath. However, as the dust settles, will anyone look at what preventions were in place, what adult interventions that were ignored? It's easy to just say shoot the shooter, but does that make any sense? If this kid, the 15 year old, was bullied, what in God's name did anyone do about it?!
Murph
10:47 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Jackie,
Maybe the school administration is afraid to address the problems directly so they implement these anti-bullying programs in hopes the problem fixes itself. And yes, the school systems are afraid of being sued not only by the bullying victims, but also the fear of being sued for saying a child is a bully. A classmate of the shooter lives two doors up from me and he said that the shooter was expelled from several middle schools prior to his entry into PHS. Your question and comment, "If the shooter had mental health issues, were they dealt with or ignored? There seems to be a lot of money for non-essential services, and little for mental health." are both valid and it appears to me that the shooter's needs were ignored by the school system and his parents. Yes, we can shoot the shooter or lock him up for the rest of his life, but the bullying and school violence will continue.
In response to your final comment above, I have read that bullies have been bullied themselves; nobody did a thing because people were afraid to deal with the problem head on because of what we agreed upon in terms of lawsuits and denials.
MikeyG
10:57 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Funny how shooter is talked about....and not victim. A down syndrome student. Sad.
Jackie
12:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Plenty of people will stand with the victim, the 17 year old. Understand that yesterday, there were two victims.
Mike Smith
11:05 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Just hope the victim can fully recover. As for the shooter lock him away for the rest of his life. If your solution to problems is to randomly shoot people then you should be removed from society. No second chances and no excuses for him. Let him live with the rest of pieces of crap who reside in our prisons. Soon he will know what it is like to be bullied.
Theresa Defino
11:25 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
What kind of home did this shooter grow up in?
"Monday afternoon, county police searched a house and a shed at the address listed as Gladden's in the court filings for more than an hour and a half, and could be seen removing some guns. A sign near the front door had an image of a gun and the message: We don't call 911."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bs-md-perry-hall-follow-20120828,0,4482968.story
m hal
12:03 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
A promiscuous 15 yearold girl who lies about her age goes to clubs to pick up guys can land a man on a sex offender list life ruined for a one night stand and still be regarded as a victim but a 15 year old boy who picks up a gun and takes a life is charged as an adult.
Ashley
12:08 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Peeing in public can get you on a sex offenders list. You're comparing apples and oranges. Also, I highly doubt the 15 year old is out there deliberately ruining lives. This boy was deliberate with his actions. Completely different situations.
Ashley
12:08 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
*15 year old girl
john
12:35 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
black shooter white victim no al sharpton. Just saying.
Carrie Snead Ayd
12:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Can we NOT make race an issue in every tragedy ?!
Jon
1:04 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree with you Carrie, but this is the first I have heard the race for either the victim or the shooter. I don't think it's getting played up in this case. At least by folks other than Gabe here.
angie johns
3:26 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The shooter is white; where are you getting your info: Fox News?
ARG
12:43 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
First of all, i am preying that Mr. Gladdens parents have a record of the bullying. I am hoping this child, and yes he is a child, was brave enough to tell someone he was being picked on. For the parents sake, i hope the contacted the school about it and i hope the school took action. If the school did not take action, then the school is as much at fault. I have noticed in todays reports they have left out the part of Mr. Gladden being picked on, things being thrown at him, and the other actions that led up to the shooting. I also hope nothing like this ever happens to your (the previous posters) family or loved ones. I am not justifying Mr. Gladdens actions, what I am asking is that you put yourself in Mr. Gladdens place. Sitting in class while people star and laugh at you, throw things at you, and make fun of you. There is no one stading up for you, you are embarrassed, you are in high school, and you are scared and angry and this possibly isnt the first time these things have happened. Imagine being pushed to the edge of reason. Feeling like you have no where to go. If you tell an administrator, you will be harrassed even more, or if you have already tried to tell possibly ignored.
Those who have already judged and condemned this boy should take a long hard look at themselves, have you always waked the straight and narrow? Have you always done the right thing, have you always treated everyone equal? I seriusly doubt any one of you can answer yes!
Jon
1:09 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Regardless of the bullying situation, even if it was terrible for Gladden, society can NEVER condone the attempted murder of another person as an acceptable response. Nor should it be used as an excuse - there are always other options.
Jackie
1:19 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@ARG: Yes!
Joe R
12:47 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Its sad no one could reach out to this kid Robert before it got this far, I mean one look at his facebook and you can see. I think parents these days need to be more involved in their teenagers lives, with the things that are on tv and in social media theyre bound to head down the wrong road without direction from someone in their family.
Carrie Snead Ayd
12:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
All day long people have commented on FB on the TV in the paper about yesterdays events at PHHS. Comments about the shooter ALL day. So much negativity surrounding this event and rightfully so but PLEASE people...stop for one second. Take yesterdays tragic event and make something out of it. Have a conversation with your child or children. Be their parent and NOT their friend ! The shooter is being put out there as a victim of being bullied and maybe he was, but the bottom line is that he intended on walking into that school and taking a life or several lives. I DO NOT in any way shape or form condone bullying but murder is also inexcusable !! Take this time to let you child know that bullying in wrong in any fashion. Let them know it's NOT ok to be a bully or to egg on bullying. Simply laughing along at someone being bullied is in fact bullying in a sense. More importantly, let them know that your door and your heart is open to them and/or their peers. Let them know that if someone or something is not right or is making them uncomfortable that YOU will be there to support them and back them up and get them help. Stop the "My child does no wrong" mentality and recognize that YOUR child could have been the victim OR the shooter. LETS START THE PARENTING AT HOME WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE !!
Joe R
12:56 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree with you ARG, bullying is occuring and alot more serious then parents think. Its unfortunate we all cant be accepted for who we are. Who cares if he wears all black and has long hair, but there areare groups of people that get off on targeting kids like this..
Joe R
12:58 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
All of my prayers go out to the kid who was shot. I hope he has a fast recovery.
Mike Smith
1:06 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I feel nothing for shooter. I don't care if he is a child he deserves no compassion. It's not the schools fault. It's not his parents fault. It's his fault. It was the first day of school. How can anyone claimed he was bullied at school. It was the first day. If he was bullied last school year then he has 1 months to get over it. It is all his fault. He shot an innocent person cause he is messed up. Remove him from society and problem solved.
Murph
1:12 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
That still does not solve the problem. Yes, you can lock up this boy forever, but the problem with bullying and school violence goes on. Yes, he made a choice and will pay a price, but there will be more kids like him.
Shell9
1:07 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I have seen these policies on Bullying that BCPS have put in place and I can tell you that they are a joke. It's not enough to just suspend them. The kids go home and do what ever they want because the parents have no idea how to discipline them. Most of them see it as everyone else is at fault. Their little angel could never have done this thing that he is being accused of. They need intervention counseling on both ends. The bully and the one being bullied. Our kids of today are going to hell in a hand basket. They are the future leaders of our country. Most of them don't know how to problem solve. There seems to be a missed opportunity for intervention with this young boy who did the shooting. From his parents and the school. The signs are there. I know it is stereo typing but most kids who are GOTH (sp) have issues with depression and feelings of not being worthy. Why not encourage a group to meet for kids with these feelings. Reach out to the problem kids by giving them worth not suspension. This is where Baltimore County fails. Principals want to get them out of the school. Make them do in school suspension. I have a daughter with special needs and I don't think the police could keep me away from the parents. I would have wiped the floor up with his mom..His dad seemed to be compassionate. We need to invest in our kids..
Sierra skazis
4:19 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Seriously all you people shut up. He was wrong for bringing in a gun into school , end of story. Everyone gets bullied deal with it other ways. I was inside the school when it happend and it was scary so instead of talking Boit this kid go take care of your kids because everyone in that school is traumatized.
ARG
5:27 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
i am not saying people are not traumatized from this. i cannot imagine what the kids were thinking might be happening in this school at the time. i also agree that he should not have brought a gun to school. what i am saying is, there is an underlying issue. People should not rush to judgement on this boy.
And for the record i believe if the parenting was done at home instead of in the schools, the parents should take accountability.
Ponder121
5:57 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
everyone knows someone who is capable of doing horrible things.anyone is capable of doing anything at any time.it should not be surprising that an act such as this could occur in our community.this crime is just another example of the downward spiral of society and the obvious lack of parental concern.fortunately there is a plan for each of us and we only have to ask HIM.only He is able to lead us all in the way that may prevent such tragedies in the future......GOD BLESS
Joe R
6:15 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I like how someone stated how the bullying excuse is bullcrap cause it was the first day, he was a sophmore if im not mistaken so he had atleast a few yrs of being tormented in that school. And im not picking at phs but i know when i graduated in 06 kids that dressed in all black and were goth got picked on constantly, and not in just phs its all over the state. Its not right, does anyone see a trend what these kids commiting these acts wear and listen too. No it is not marilyn mansons fault, im just saying maybe we should reach ot to these kids before they do things such as this.
froggypant
8:07 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Plug in this boys dad's name Robert W Gladden he has all kinds of charges.... apple doesn't fall far ... http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp
Zoobie
11:11 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
"15 yr old Charged as an adult with first degree murder......".What have we become? Is this The United States Of America? Sounds more like Afganastan, to me! Why not just take him out to the woodpile and 'behead him' ? I'm no liberal, bleeding heart, but a "fifteen year old, bullied teenager, is not 'An Adult'". He's a troubled teen. A life has been taken, and there must be consequenses, but, a stroke of the pen saying this teen is an adult is wrong, and don't make it so! Hinkley's in the nut house for trying to kill President Reagan. Wouldn't this case call for an Pych. profile and examination of all of the circumstances before jumping ahead with the maximum charges possible?
pyschstuff
12:57 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"I have seen these policies on Bullying that BCPS have put in place and I can tell you that they are a joke. It's not enough to just suspend them." Actually, there is a new policy in place regarding the use of suspension in BCPS schools. It comes from policy changes at the state level. Essentially it requires well documented, preventative measures/interventions to occur before suspension can be considered. BCPS plainly states that suspension is not effective and not an option like it was before. They even give a list of interventions in the policy and the list is excellent (let me qualify my opinion my saying that I do work in the mental health field). Now, it doesnt mean that suspension can't be used-especially in the case of immanent threat to safety. The interventions listed even suggest referral to a mental health provider. Furthermore, BCPS is implementing a research based school wide positive behavior interventions and supports program in many of the schools- that utilizes many of the intervention suggestions listed in the new bcps policy. The policy is public, so u can probably google it or go to the bcps website. Long way to go, but moving the right direction.
Terran
1:18 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I'm all for an eye for an eye. Sorry Arg, but I have been picked on for about 15 years. Had things thrown at me, even had a guy spit on me. I never thought about taking a gun to school to solve my problems. I did my time, got my diploma, and knew that they would get back everything they dished out. And I had parents going thru a divorce so I had no one to talk to about my problems. So don't give me that boo hoo for the shooter, he was from a dysfunctional family crap. An eye for an eye is the way to go. If we don't go blind right away, maybe it will open peoples eyes when they see that we aren't just stuffing them in a looney bin and giving them a lollipop. But instead That they will have to face the consequences for their actions. Many prayers to Daniel and his family.
pyschstuff
1:48 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
ARG a- something to keep in mind about bullying- victims sometimes also become bullys and resort to aggression, taunting and other acts such as this. The research about violence is clear on contributing factors-and there's several, and its more of an interaction of several factors, including parenting style (too permissive, too controlling, indifference, absense of warmth-none are good), effects of a troubled marriage/divorce, exposure to traumatic violence, exposure to abuse (physical, sexual or verbal), relationship to attachment figures (parents)..... all that to say- its complex. It can be identified early on however, well, yea, thats complex too! As many here said (in so many words) us humans have that human factor going on, dont we? What one of us wouldnt end up where he did in the same circumstances? Resilliency, exposure to stress, positive protective factors that exist(like social support networks), drug addictions?! The human factor. Could be any one of us!
Kathleen Walther
1:26 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Initially.I got a FB page only to monitor our daughter's FB page on a daily basis. Where was the supervision in this 15 year old's life? If I had seen anything like what was on his FB page ( and I would bet this wasn't his first FB entry with questionable comments included)), the computer would have been taken away,and a MAJOR discussion between parents and child would have ensued. We probably would also have sought some kind of serious counseling for her through the school and privately, if necessary. I agree with a previous comment that children are NOT born to hate others - they learn it from their parents/guardians. I've experienced, first-hand, the disgusting racism of one set of parents within our daughter's circle of friends. It was just that- -DISGUSTING! a young girl bring told that if she dated a particular boy that her father would disown her. That young girl telling the boy to hide / duck down in my car when she saw her mother. These sane parents claim to be such wonderful parents, as they model nothing but hatred for others. These same patents who depended upon others to let them know about their own daughter's entities on FB and other social media. Where were they?? Probably too busy mouthing off about young boys of other races who did NOTHING to them except like their daughter. The mother making nasty comments about my daughter's mother (me) directly to a 17 year old girl. These parents are modeling negative behaviors of hatred and intolerance.
Kevin
2:29 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
My heart goes out to the boy who was shot but my heart also goes out to the boy who did the shooting. He was bullied and he didn't get the help he needed, from his parents, or his school. The boys who bullied him should be expelled from school. The parent who owned the gun should face charges. The boy should not face jailtime, he should instead, be given the help that he needs.
SnakeSkin
9:18 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Kevin the help he needs is jail time!! Maybe not life, but something or maybe life in a mental facility. Yeah he was bullied I understand what it's like because I was bullied as a kid. We move on. We get stronger. Go to the gym. exercise makes you feel better, not violence!!